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Post by Battle Troyale on Apr 12, 2013 12:26:15 GMT -5
Harris will get a B- inside and a B- defense Everything else, will be rejected im finding it a joke that Harris and George have the same ratings scoring wise. George is a clearly the better shooter, and they both have B-.... thats BS
Paul George scores 16.8 points per 36 minutes on 42.1% shooting. He's on a team with other good scorers and a balanced scoring attack.
Tobias Harris with Orlando is scoring 17.0 points per 36 minutes on 45.4% shooting. He does not have nearly as many scorers around him to distract the defense.
I only griped the inside scoring, of which Tobias Harris is superior to Paul George (64.3% to 60% eFG%). Tobias Harris grabs more rebounds at a higher rate AND percentage than Paul George, yet they have the same rebound rating. |
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Post by stache on Apr 12, 2013 15:31:09 GMT -5
Lebron, Wade, and Bosh all have 1 more year on their deals \ Can't find that, link me Joel Anthony also had 1 less year on his deal |
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Post by squidwardtentacles on Apr 12, 2013 15:41:54 GMT -5
Manu Ginobili defense from B- to B+
Averaging 2.1 steals per 36 inutes in 12-13. 3rd on the Spurs in D Rating at 100 which is a great number.
Spurs are 3rd overall in the league in D Rating so having one of the best on the team is an accomplishment. People assume he can't defend because he's a white European, but stats suggest that he's been a good defender for his entire career.
www.basketball-reference.com/players/g/ginobma01.htmlTim Duncan defense from B to A
B defense is pretty insulting to Duncan. He is leading the league in D Rating! Playing for a god defensive team helps him but his D Rating is still 6 points lower than the Spurs rating as a team. He's the best defender on one of the top 3 defensive teams in the league, actually, forget about his own team, he may be having the best defensive season in the entire league. I think that should be enough proof.
Also, averaging 3.2 blocks and .9 steals per 36 minutes.
Should be moved to center, hasn't been a PF for awhle.
www.basketball-reference.com/players/d/duncati01.html
Tiago Splitter inside to B
averaging 15.2 points per 36 inutes...averaged 17.6 in 11-12...shooting 56.6% in 12-13...shot 62% in 11-12
www.basketball-reference.com/players/s/splitti01.html
Kawhi Leonard rebounding to C
7 rebounds per 36 minutes. there are a bunch of guys who put up worse rebounding number than Kawhi who have a C rating
www.basketball-reference.com/players/l/leonaka01.html
DeJaun Blair Outside to D+
.667 from the line isn't that awful. In my experience with FBB D- results in a FT% in the 50s.
Doens't have to be a D+ just look at his jumpshot and have it reflect his FT%.
www.basketball-reference.com/players/b/blairde01.html
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Post by Sheddy on Apr 12, 2013 16:24:19 GMT -5
Dalmbert fixed Sanders to a B Ellis has high steal, he is fine |
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Post by squidwardtentacles on Apr 12, 2013 16:26:13 GMT -5
Kawhi Leonard's name is misspelled in roster. got the 'n' before the 'o'
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Post by Sheddy on Apr 12, 2013 16:26:16 GMT -5
Hakim Warrick's contract should be a 1 year deal I believe. He's an FA...fixed |
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Post by Sheddy on Apr 12, 2013 16:26:37 GMT -5
Omer Asik Rebounding from C+ to B+ Reasoning: He averages 11.7 rebounds per game in 30 minutes per game this averages out to 14 rebounds per 36 minutes the guy is a force on the glass and C+ is a disservice to him www.basketball-reference.com/players/a/asikom01.htmlThis is one I just flat out missed...B+ granted |
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Post by Sheddy on Apr 12, 2013 16:30:31 GMT -5
CavsGripesKyrie Irving (B B- B C+ C A) Kyrie Irving (B B B B C A) Kyrie shoots 40% from 3pt range. Also averages 1.5 spg. Dion Waiters (C+ C+ C C C- A) Dion Waiters (C+ C+ C+ C+ C- A) Averages 3.0 apg, averaged 6 apg as primary ball handle while Kyrie was out. Averages 1 spg. Tristan Thompson (C+ C C- C+ C+ B) Tristan Thompson ( B- C C- B- B B) Average a near double double (11.6 ppg / 9.3 rpg) while shooting 48.6% from the field. Also averages .8 spg and .8 bpg. CJ Miles (B- D C+ B+ C B) CJ Miles (B- B- C+ B+ C B) Shooting 38.4% from three this year, 34.3% for his career. ContractsMiles should also have a team option for next season - $2,225,000 hoopshype.com/salaries/cleveland.htmVarejao - 3rd season (2014-2015) should be a team option - $9,800,000 hoopshype.com/salaries/cleveland.htmBird YearsTristan Thompson - 1 Kyrie Irving - 1 Omri Casspi - 3 Marresse Speights - 2 Missing PlayersShould have Shaun Livingston. (Dec. 25, 2012)Should not have Jon Leuer, he was traded to Memphis for Ellington and Speights. (Jan. 22, 2013)Should not have Samardo Samuels, he was waived January 6, 2013.
basketball.realgm.com/nba/teams/Cleveland-Cavaliers/5/Transaction_History
Irving is fine...he is good enough with potential, so he will be good Waiter moved to C+ handling, upped stealing, but stayed at C Thompson gets moved to B- inside, B- rebounding CJ Miles is rejected Contracts, bird years, and players are fixed |
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Post by Sheddy on Apr 12, 2013 16:33:43 GMT -5
Good job on my roster pretty accurate, only thing I see is Curry should be A- outside for obvious reasons.. among top 3 point shooters in league ...would link stats but I'm mobile...if he don't go up its cool Curry should be fine |
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Post by Sheddy on Apr 12, 2013 16:39:35 GMT -5
Nikola Vucevic Current: Desired: Here are a few NBA players with similar size and skill sets to Vucevic, arranged in increasing defensive rating. I tried to get each step from C+ to A-. | Player | Blocks
per 36 min
| Steals
per 36 min | Block
% | Steal
% | DEF
Rating
| David Lee
| 0.3
| 0.8
| 0.6
| 1.1
| C+
| Jason Thompson
| 1.0
| 0.7
| 2.1
| 1.0
| B-
| Lamarcus Aldridge
| 1.2
| 0.8
| 2.4
| 1.2
| B
| Al Horford
| 1.0
| 1.0
| 2.2
| 1.5
| B+
| Tyson Chandler
| 1.2
| 0.7
| 3.0
| 1.0
| A-
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Now here's Vucevic:
Player
| Blocks
per 36 min
| Steals
per 36 min
| Block
%
| Steal
%
| DEF
Rating
| Nikola Vucevic
| 1.1
| 0.8
| 2.4
| 1.2
| C
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Vucevic's defensive rating in this league is so low it's off the chart. David Lee, one of the worst defenders in the league, gets a C+ for defense. If I was to insert Vucevic into this chart, I would place him right on par with Aldridge since their stats are almost identical, and Vucevic is clearly better than Thompson and Lee. He's a pretty good defender, and no way should he be worse than the notorious no-defense big men of the league: David Lee: C+ Carlos Boozer: C+ Brandon Bass: C+ Kris Humphries : B- Amare Stoudemire: B- Ryan Anderson: B (!)
Andrea Bargnani B- (!!!)
Dirk Nowitzki: B (!) Big Baby is a decent scorer on a bad team....results are of team. He'll be fine on this team as well if he is 1st or 2nd option like real life Vuc is an average defensive player, but he is better than some of those guys...moving to B- |
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Post by Sheddy on Apr 12, 2013 16:42:56 GMT -5
Manu Ginobili defense from B- to B+
Averaging 2.1 steals per 36 inutes in 12-13. 3rd on the Spurs in D Rating at 100 which is a great number.
Spurs are 3rd overall in the league in D Rating so having one of the best on the team is an accomplishment. People assume he can't defend because he's a white European, but stats suggest that he's been a good defender for his entire career.
www.basketball-reference.com/players/g/ginobma01.htmlTim Duncan defense from B to A
B defense is pretty insulting to Duncan. He is leading the league in D Rating! Playing for a god defensive team helps him but his D Rating is still 6 points lower than the Spurs rating as a team. He's the best defender on one of the top 3 defensive teams in the league, actually, forget about his own team, he may be having the best defensive season in the entire league. I think that should be enough proof.
Also, averaging 3.2 blocks and .9 steals per 36 minutes.
Should be moved to center, hasn't been a PF for awhle.
www.basketball-reference.com/players/d/duncati01.html
Tiago Splitter inside to B
averaging 15.2 points per 36 inutes...averaged 17.6 in 11-12...shooting 56.6% in 12-13...shot 62% in 11-12
www.basketball-reference.com/players/s/splitti01.html
Kawhi Leonard rebounding to C
7 rebounds per 36 minutes. there are a bunch of guys who put up worse rebounding number than Kawhi who have a C rating
www.basketball-reference.com/players/l/leonaka01.html
DeJaun Blair Outside to D+
.667 from the line isn't that awful. In my experience with FBB D- results in a FT% in the 50s.
Doens't have to be a D+ just look at his jumpshot and have it reflect his FT%.
www.basketball-reference.com/players/b/blairde01.html
Manu moves to B on D Duncan moves to B+....he is a solid defender. Rest is pure media speculation, and FYI those "stats" arent used by the NBA at all Splitter is fine at B- Leonard will get C rebounding Blair moves to D+ |
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Post by fearthedeer on Apr 12, 2013 16:56:12 GMT -5
It's not speculation at all, it's only maths. Though it's a lot based on how the teams defend in the first place.
Anyway there's no stat for defensive abilities so we can't prove anything to you on this !
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Post by Sheddy on Apr 12, 2013 16:57:47 GMT -5
It's not speculation at all, it's only maths. Though it's a lot based on how the teams defend in the first place. Anyway there's no stat for defensive abilities so we can't prove anything to you on this ! Just cause the media doesn't know how to work our scouting programs doesn't mean we dont have any haha |
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Post by squidwardtentacles on Apr 12, 2013 17:20:58 GMT -5
D rating sounds like a good stat in concept. What are your problems with it? just curious
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Post by fearthedeer on Apr 12, 2013 18:16:37 GMT -5
It's not speculation at all, it's only maths. Though it's a lot based on how the teams defend in the first place. Anyway there's no stat for defensive abilities so we can't prove anything to you on this ! Just cause the media doesn't know how to work our scouting programs doesn't mean we dont have any haha Imo "the NBA" is just another media  |
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