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Post by Sheddy on Apr 14, 2013 20:50:18 GMT -5
This is rejected. Andre Miller is a fringe PG at best now. Sorry |
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Post by Sheddy on Apr 14, 2013 20:50:52 GMT -5
Lance Stephenson C+ handles B defense C+ outside Stephenson was known for us defense coming out of the NBA. He has great size and a great wingspan. Gets a steal a game in under 30 minutes per game, has a 3.6 DWS and is on the short let of most improved players in the league, is shooting .326 from the line which isn't great but deserves C+. He gets 3 assists a game with one turnover deserving a bump. He is great at grabbing a defensive rebound, and pushing the ball up court. Just some random stats showing how good Stephenson has been. The Pacers best lineup is Hill-Stephenson-George-West-Hibbert with a 75.9 win percent and a +/- of 283. Replace Lance in the lineup with Young, and they have a 29.3 win percent and a +/- of -20. That is pretty significant. Comparing Stephenson to other SGs. 67 more net point then IGGY, over 100 more than Joe Johnson, and Manu. And all higher win%. Basically I'm saying Stephenson is vastly underrated because he is one of the NBAs most improved players. This is what he would of looked like last year. These gripes are what he is this year. www.82games.com/1213/12IND5.HTMWas hoping you did this. My system does not represent him. All are upgraded |
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Post by mmox275 on Apr 14, 2013 20:52:38 GMT -5
I don't even know what that means, and i'll accept the rejection... Just don't understand why. He has good numbers on one of the best teams in the league. And there is no way he would average those numbers with C+ C ratings.
Does this count as a gripe or are only approved ones counted?
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Post by Sheddy on Apr 14, 2013 20:57:46 GMT -5
I don't even know what that means, and i'll accept the rejection... Just don't understand why. He has good numbers on one of the best teams in the league. And there is no way he would average those numbers with C+ C ratings. Does this count as a gripe or are only approved ones counted? Everything attempt counts as one. What it means is that he plays against the weak west 2nd units btw |
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Post by mmox275 on Apr 14, 2013 21:03:13 GMT -5
I don't even know what that means, and i'll accept the rejection... Just don't understand why. He has good numbers on one of the best teams in the league. And there is no way he would average those numbers with C+ C ratings. Does this count as a gripe or are only approved ones counted? Everything attempt counts as one. What it means is that he plays against the weak west 2nd units btw Well I did say he's averaged 13ppg on .474 shooting as a starter since Lawson went down, which proves he's still quite good and very efficient even against starting units... But I guess your mind is made up. Thanks anyway. |
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Post by Sheddy on Apr 14, 2013 21:06:59 GMT -5
Everything attempt counts as one. What it means is that he plays against the weak west 2nd units btw Well I did say he's averaged 13ppg on .474 shooting as a starter since Lawson went down, which proves he's still quite good and very efficient even against starting units... But I guess your mind is made up. Thanks anyway. Thats some good evidence. B- inside granted. I didnt see that |
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Post by mmox275 on Apr 14, 2013 21:07:48 GMT -5
Thank you sir.
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Post by mike on Apr 14, 2013 22:07:43 GMT -5
www.basketball-reference.com/teams/POR/2013.html92 Lamarcus Aldridge PF 24 6'10'' 237 B B- D+ B B- B Gripe: B+ inside Reason: He is a very talented scorer. He is averaging 21 ppg this year on a great 48%FG percentage. 599 J.J. Hickson PF 23 6'10'' 230 C+ D+ C- B C B Gripes: B inside B+ rebounding Reason: 13ppg and shooting 57%FG this season. Also averaging 10.5rpg 443 Damian Lillard PG 22 6'3'' 195 B- C B B D+ A Gripes: B inside B- outside Reason: Yes he is a rookie but he is ridiculously good scorer and scoring 19ppg as a rookie is very impressive. He can get to the basket and finish inside but can also shoot well. He has a good jumper and outside shot.
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Post by Sheddy on Apr 14, 2013 22:35:27 GMT -5
www.basketball-reference.com/teams/POR/2013.html92 Lamarcus Aldridge PF 24 6'10'' 237 B B- D+ B B- B Gripe: B+ inside Reason: He is a very talented scorer. He is averaging 21 ppg this year on a great 48%FG percentage. 599 J.J. Hickson PF 23 6'10'' 230 C+ D+ C- B C B Gripes: B inside B+ rebounding Reason: 13ppg and shooting 57%FG this season. Also averaging 10.5rpg 443 Damian Lillard PG 22 6'3'' 195 B- C B B D+ A Gripes: B inside B- outside Reason: Yes he is a rookie but he is ridiculously good scorer and scoring 19ppg as a rookie is very impressive. He can get to the basket and finish inside but can also shoot well. He has a good jumper and outside shot. LMA is granted B+ inside JJ is granted B- inside, B rebounding Lillard is granted B- outside |
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Post by darin on Apr 15, 2013 6:36:38 GMT -5
Austin Rivers potential to B. He is a rookie drafted in the lottery. He should be higher than F.
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Post by stephenlion on Apr 15, 2013 9:11:17 GMT -5
Austin Rivers potential to B. He is a rookie drafted in the lottery. He should be higher than F. scout pot only, relax |
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Post by Sheddy on Apr 15, 2013 9:33:45 GMT -5
Austin Rivers potential to B. He is a rookie drafted in the lottery. He should be higher than F. Scouted potential doesn't get griped. Don't worry he's fine |
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Post by Battle Troyale on Apr 15, 2013 14:45:37 GMT -5
Andrew Nicholson
C+ inside to B-
Has an eFG% of 0.524 total, and 0.635 from the inside. Scores more points per 36 minutes (16.8) than other forwards such as Zach Randolph, Andrea Bargnani, Jeff Green, Paul George...
I don't know if college statistics count for anything but he shot 57.5% from the floor as a whole through 4 years and 123 games in college. Draft profiles all had him as an interior offensive scorer as the strength in his game
From DraftExpress:
www.draftexpress.com/profile/Andrew-Nicholson-5518/
"Besides Anthony Davis, Jared Sullinger and Tyler Zeller, the next more impressive big man in this study is likely Andrew Nicholson. Nicholson shouldered a heavy offensive load for St. Bonaventure (3rd highest of the 26 prospects), but still ranks as the 5th most efficient scorer overall. The fact that he was so effective with his back to the basket (5th best post scorer) and facing the basket (#1 in overall jump-shot attempts, 2nd most efficient shooter at 1.096), and with the ball (#3 in total isolation attempts, #3 in efficiency) is impressive. Nicholson is effective in pretty much every area we looked at, highlighting his extremely high skill-level."
From NBAdraft.net
www.nbadraft.net/players/andrew-nicholson
A versatile power forward with a high basketball IQ … While he only has decent size for his position, his tremendous length allows him to play much bigger … Extremely efficient scorer, he has made himself into a reliable inside threat (shows a nice mini hook over his left shoulder, is able to utilize an effective up and under and is also dangerous with a turnaround jumper) … Possesses an intriguing face up game, he has good quickness and regularly shows his ability to work off the dribble … He always had the ability to step out and shoot with range, but became a deadly option from beyond the arc during his final 10 collegiate games (he made 19/30 from long range during that time)… For a big man, his stroke is very smooth, he shoots the ball with good balance and is able to get good lift … He is a dangerous weapon setting screens on the ball as he loves to step out on pick and pop situations and is good at attacking the rotating defender because of his ability to sell the shotfake and then put the ball on the deck
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He's shooting better/more efficiently in the pro than other rookie big men such as Anthony Davis, Michael Kidd-Gilchrist, Thomas Robinson. Shooting 4th among all rookies, and a PER #6 among all rookies with at least 1000 minutes played.
Sources:
www.82games.com/1213/12ORL12.HTM
www.basketball-reference.com/players/n/nichoan01.html
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Post by squidwardtentacles on Apr 15, 2013 15:19:45 GMT -5
Manu Ginobili defense from B- to B+
Averaging 2.1 steals per 36 inutes in 12-13. 3rd on the Spurs in D Rating at 100 which is a great number.
Spurs are 3rd overall in the league in D Rating so having one of the best on the team is an accomplishment. People assume he can't defend because he's a white European, but stats suggest that he's been a good defender for his entire career.
www.basketball-reference.com/players/g/ginobma01.htmlTim Duncan defense from B to A
B defense is pretty insulting to Duncan. He is leading the league in D Rating! Playing for a god defensive team helps him but his D Rating is still 6 points lower than the Spurs rating as a team. He's the best defender on one of the top 3 defensive teams in the league, actually, forget about his own team, he may be having the best defensive season in the entire league. I think that should be enough proof.
Also, averaging 3.2 blocks and .9 steals per 36 minutes.
Should be moved to center, hasn't been a PF for awhle.
www.basketball-reference.com/players/d/duncati01.html
Tiago Splitter inside to B
averaging 15.2 points per 36 inutes...averaged 17.6 in 11-12...shooting 56.6% in 12-13...shot 62% in 11-12
www.basketball-reference.com/players/s/splitti01.html
Kawhi Leonard rebounding to C
7 rebounds per 36 minutes. there are a bunch of guys who put up worse rebounding number than Kawhi who have a C rating
www.basketball-reference.com/players/l/leonaka01.html
DeJaun Blair Outside to D+
.667 from the line isn't that awful. In my experience with FBB D- results in a FT% in the 50s.
Doens't have to be a D+ just look at his jumpshot and have it reflect his FT%.
www.basketball-reference.com/players/b/blairde01.html
Manu moves to B on D Duncan moves to B+....he is a solid defender. Rest is pure media speculation, and FYI those "stats" arent used by the NBA at all Splitter is fine at B- Leonard will get C rebounding Blair moves to D+ Blair only shot 49% on FTs in preseason (325 attempts) So not sure if you added to his 3pnt shooting or..? Also, need 2 bird years for tiago splitter instead of 1. www.basketball-reference.com/players/s/splitti01.html#totals::noneStephen Jackson should have 9 bird years. Hasn't switched teams via free agency since '03 (bottom of page: Transactions) www.basketball-reference.com/players/j/jacksst02.html |
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Post by Sheddy on Apr 15, 2013 23:25:53 GMT -5
Andrew Nicholson
C+ inside to B-
Has an eFG% of 0.524 total, and 0.635 from the inside. Scores more points per 36 minutes (16.8) than other forwards such as Zach Randolph, Andrea Bargnani, Jeff Green, Paul George...
I don't know if college statistics count for anything but he shot 57.5% from the floor as a whole through 4 years and 123 games in college. Draft profiles all had him as an interior offensive scorer as the strength in his game
From DraftExpress:
www.draftexpress.com/profile/Andrew-Nicholson-5518/
"Besides Anthony Davis, Jared Sullinger and Tyler Zeller, the next more impressive big man in this study is likely Andrew Nicholson. Nicholson shouldered a heavy offensive load for St. Bonaventure (3rd highest of the 26 prospects), but still ranks as the 5th most efficient scorer overall. The fact that he was so effective with his back to the basket (5th best post scorer) and facing the basket (#1 in overall jump-shot attempts, 2nd most efficient shooter at 1.096), and with the ball (#3 in total isolation attempts, #3 in efficiency) is impressive. Nicholson is effective in pretty much every area we looked at, highlighting his extremely high skill-level."
From NBAdraft.net
www.nbadraft.net/players/andrew-nicholson
A versatile power forward with a high basketball IQ … While he only has decent size for his position, his tremendous length allows him to play much bigger … Extremely efficient scorer, he has made himself into a reliable inside threat (shows a nice mini hook over his left shoulder, is able to utilize an effective up and under and is also dangerous with a turnaround jumper) … Possesses an intriguing face up game, he has good quickness and regularly shows his ability to work off the dribble … He always had the ability to step out and shoot with range, but became a deadly option from beyond the arc during his final 10 collegiate games (he made 19/30 from long range during that time)… For a big man, his stroke is very smooth, he shoots the ball with good balance and is able to get good lift … He is a dangerous weapon setting screens on the ball as he loves to step out on pick and pop situations and is good at attacking the rotating defender because of his ability to sell the shotfake and then put the ball on the deck
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He's shooting better/more efficiently in the pro than other rookie big men such as Anthony Davis, Michael Kidd-Gilchrist, Thomas Robinson. Shooting 4th among all rookies, and a PER #6 among all rookies with at least 1000 minutes played.
Sources:
www.82games.com/1213/12ORL12.HTM
www.basketball-reference.com/players/n/nichoan01.html
Nicholson is fine..he will improve and doesn't play big minutes for the Magic anyways |
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